I have no eio input for an lc2, so ive tried the lc1 and lm1 with no success as far as i know. You dont have the associated software on your computer binary data is the most popular software package that uses lc2 file. Currently available items only, or those that were available when they went up in this thread. Once connected, the firmware update utility will automatically detect and update your unit to the latest firmware if one is available. Under normal use, you shouldnt ever have to reflash the mspnps firmware. It does not seem like my innovate lc2 wideband is reading properly. The lc 2s design allows it to be mounted inside the cabin. My o2 sensor didnt work because of a damaged harness, not a dead sensor. Section four details the process of installing firmware. Aug 26, 2010 this feature is not available right now. Widebands that you would or wouldnt buy im going to say would use the plx, i know they use cheap components and i think the dc barrel connector is a joke but ive not had any trouble with them as long as ive managed to keep the power polarity right. The newer lc 2 and mtxl widebands use a different style cable. The lc2 utilizes the only 100% digital wideband airfuel ratio technology on the market. They feature selfcalibrating circuitry to compensate for changes in temperature, altitude, and sensor condition.
Innovate 3877 lc2 digital wideband controller kit, black. I was connected to my computer and was pulling out of my drive way to log some pulls and i stall my car going in reverse. Innovate motorsports lc2 digital wideband controller with o2. Stock o2 narrowband signal from the stock sensor to the ecu was left untouched.
Is there anything else that i will need to datalog afr and rpm and all the other needed sensors. Ok, ive been tinkering with my v2 for several years. Power down the mtxl plus and attach the oxygen sensor using the cable provided. Innovate lc2 green db wideband afr air fuel gauge kit part 3873 this kit comes complete with the patented awardwinning lc2 wideband controller, dbgreen gauge bosch 5wire wideband 02 sensor. Each gauge features a bright led available in blue, green or red.
The evolution of the worlds most popular stand alone digital o. Innovate motorsports pn 3733 or use any usb to serial adaptor that includes drivers. How to integrate innovative lc1 and moates quarter horse. The lc2i, is a compact, twochannel processor with active input circuitry, which allows it to accept speakerlevel signals of up to 400 watts per channel from factoryinstalled source units or amplifiers. The lc2 is ideal for applications such as dynos, data acquisition, standalone ecus, piggyback fuel controllers, obdii software or chip programmers, and. If innovation spans the entire business model of the organization and.
It does not seem like my innovate lc 2 wideband is reading properly. Innovate db digital airfuel ratio gauge with lc2 kits. The innovate motorsports db gauges are 52mm 2 116 air fuel gauges. In a similar style to the standalones that you would never use thread, this is going to be a feedback based wideband shootout. Guide for lc 2, lm 2, mtxl, scg1and multisensor support this guide entails updating the firmware on your device. Rpm input to innovate lm2 from xdi igntion pelican parts. This cable is generally used with older innovate lc1 wideband products, as well as the ssi4, tc4, and lma3 auxbox. Mainly using it for uploading tunes and bbx my hpde sessions. Route the cables from the lc1 except sensor cable into the car interior under the dash. If 2 lc2s were able to hook up to the v2 via the serial, id go that way and remove the plx since i also have 2 analog inputs available on by aeroforce dual pod gauges and could run everything easier. With the new build i am adding the innovate lc 2, dlg1, and mtxd to the car.
Out of the box the lm 2 seems to be reading solid afr however i cant seem to get a good rpm reading. I can share how i wired up the older innovate lc1 to a s300v3 with a jdm p30 ecu. Log directly from the lc2s digital output into laptop wincluded software. The evolution of the worlds most popular standalone digital o2 sensor controller, the innovate motorsports lc2 builds upon the legacy of the lc1 by adding simplicity and leading edge technology. I have used the mtxl in numerous cars basically the same as the lc2 and it is the best wideband out in my opinion. Innovate lc2 wideband o2 sensor install with ecmlink v3 youtube. Innovate lc2 digital wideband lambda air fuel ratio o2. Guide for lc2, lm2, mtxl, scg1and multisensor support. Oxygen free delivery possible on eligible purchases. The evolution of the worlds most popular stand alone digital o2 sensor controller, the innovate motorsports lc 2 builds upon the legacy of the lc 1 by adding simplicity and leading edge technology. Installation of the innovate lc 2 wideband kit is pretty straight forward.
Also ill be getting a laptop so will i need a cd drive. Innovate lc2 digital wideband lambda o2 controller kits. Lc2 wideband issues performance modifications volvospeed. Innovate lm2 digital airfuel ratio meter well the box arrived today and upon opening it, i was a little surprised at all the things you get, check it out. I have used the mtxl in numerous cars basically the same as the lc 2 and it is the best wideband out in my opinion. I just recently have gotten a lc 2 and am wondering if im doing anything wrong. The evolution of the worlds most popular standalone digital o2 sensor controller, the innovate motorsports lc 2 builds upon the legacy of the lc 1 by adding simplicity and leading edge technology. Can i use only the innovate wideband lc1 or the lc2 too. The yellow wire from the lc1 is defined by default as the narrowband simulation output of the lc1.
Lc2 digital airfuel ratio lambda sensor controller manual. Jul 28, 2014 any suggestions on best location driverside, passengerside to have the bung welded into the exhaust docs say about 24 away from the collector so say 6 after the o2 sensors that are on it now. You may have binary data but your computer is not configured to associate lc2 files with the relevant software. At idle my gauge says 15 and with the lc1 eio i was in 7s and 8s, obviously not right. These wide band o2 sensors operate over a much broader range of airfuel ratio than the conventional o2 sensors, which allows for more precise fuel control over a broader range of op. You can use two if your budget allows non turbo applications can even run one wideband per cylinder for a max effort tune. The lc 2 installation manual covers most of the basics for a general install. Buy innovate motorsports 3877 lc 2 digital wideband lambda controller kit with bosch lsu 4. Rpm input to innovate lm2 from xdi igntion pelican. I recalibraded the sensor and it was fine agian but only for 15 seconds when it went to 22. Innovate motorsports 3877 lc2 digital wideband lambda. Folks, recently bought and installed the innovate lm 2 to help me tune my 3.
I have used the aem, plx, lc 1 and autometer widebands and this is by far the easiest to install and fastest to respond. I have no eio input for an lc 2, so ive tried the lc 1 and lm1 with no success as far as i know. Sep 28, 20 10 most amazing epoxy resin and wood river table. Please refer to manufacturers manuals for details, warnings, and other specific information. Use the included lc2 wideband controller and bosch 5wire oxygen sensor to complete your installation. Ensure that the serial or usb connection as well as the power source for the unit are not interrupted during the process. Innovate motorsports dbred wideband kit w lc2 and o2 sensor. Do not update the firmware with a computer whose serialusb connections have experienced problems in the past.
You can program the output to be compatible with your choice of wideband gauge awesome and the software provided is good enough for basic tuning. The lc 2 utilizes the only 100 percent digital wideband airfuel ratio technology on the market. Best of all, the db gauges include the powerful logworks software for. The lc2 installation manual covers most of the basics for a general install. The lc2 s selfcalibrating circuitry also compensates for changes in temperature, altitude, and sensor condition. Another help me wire innovate lc2 wideband hondata. Find innovate db digital airfuel ratio gauge with lc2 kits. When i got mine it was out in left field, it turned out to be just a setting. We do, however, have a few specific suggestions below. Installation of the innovate lc2 wideband kit is pretty straight forward.
The dbred wideband kit with lc2 and o2 sensor is a great way to monitor the. Each kit includes the gauge, an lc2 wideband controller, oxygen sensor, bung, serial cable, and the awardwinning logworks enginetuning software. Wide band sensor innovate lc 2 updated firmware to 1. The innovate standalone gauge kit comes complete with the patented lc2 wideband controller, red db 52mm digital gauge, bosch 5wire wideband 02 sensor, serial cable and terminator plug, mounting bung, logworks software cd, and quick start guide. Innovate motorsports lc2 builds upon the legacy of the lc1 by adding simplicity and leading edge technology. The following is provided for reference in the sections that follow. And its affordably priced, there is no reason to have a performance vehicle without a decent wideband again. The innovate motorsports db blue gauges are 52mm 2 116 inch air fuel gauges. Innovate lc2 digital wideband controller with sensor 3877. Innovate motorsports lc2 digital wideband controller with o2 sensor lc2.
Best of all, the db gauges include the powerfullogworks software for. Innovate lc2 digital wideband lambda o2 controller kits are ideal for applications such as dynamometers, data acquisition systems, standalone ecus, and gauges. Unlike the other thread, ill maintain two lists, a positive list, and a negative list. The newer lc2 and mtxl widebands use a different style cable.
Innovate mtxl wideband and moates quarterhorse mustang. Here, you are looking at the innovate motorsports db. In my experience the code 8 goes away with a recalibration maybe 5075% of the time. If its broken, buy one from an auto parts store that gives you a lifetime warranty then take it back to them when you kill one the next time.
Folks, recently bought and installed the innovate lm2 to help me tune my 3. Innovate motorsports lc2 wideband controller blauw universeel. Innovate motorsports direct digital wideband measurement. If youre installing an lc1 or lc2 wideband gauge with your. I will have the gauge mounted in a single pillar pod on and i just bought the moates. The lm programmer application can be launched from startprogramslogworks3lm programmer from the windows task bar. I will be installing my innovative lc1 wideband and i will be soon ordering a moates quarter horse chip with the binary editor. I will be installing my innovative lc 1 wideband and i will be soon ordering a moates quarter horse chip with the binary editor.
Innovate lc 1s analog 1 was programmed for 0 to 5 volts, linear to go into the ecus eld input. The innovate manual calls it a sensor timing error, usually caused by a damaged or overheated sensor. Buy innovate motorsports 3877 lc2 digital wideband lambda controller kit with bosch lsu 4. Innovate motorsports 3873 db series green 21 16 52mm complete wideband gauge kit with lc1, o2 sensor, bung and plug 3. Awesome diy woodworking projects and products duration. This cable is generally used with older innovate lc 1 wideband products, as well as the ssi4, tc4, and lma3 auxbox. You should use the innovate software and connect to the device. Rallysport direct carries a great variety of quality gauges and gauge components brought to you by innovate motorsports. Innovate lc1s analog 1 was programmed for 0 to 5 volts, linear to go into the ecus eld input. Latest implementation of our direct digital technology. So i just want to buy the right thing to do it better. Make sure that nothing is connected to the in port of the lc 2 2.
The lm2 combines an airfuel ratio meter, a fullfunction. Innovate db digital airfuel ratio gauge with lc2 kits 3796. Our sensor feedback allows us to determine when the sensor is damaged. Here, you are looking at the innovate motorsports dbred wideband kit with lc 2 and o2 sensor. The lc2 utilises the only 100% digital wideband airfuel ratio technology on the market. I just recently have gotten a lc2 and am wondering if im doing anything wrong.
If 2 lc 2 s were able to hook up to the v2 via the serial, id go that way and remove the plx since i also have 2 analog inputs available on by aeroforce dual pod gauges and could run everything easier. I havent used it yet but i will be switching to it soon. The lc 2 utilizes the only 100% digital wideband airfuel ratio technology on the market. J2534 support will also allow users to potentially use other j2534 compliant software with the op 2. An unpowered oxygen sensor will be quickly damaged when. The lc2 includes a digital inputoutput, 2 fullprogrammable analog outputs, and is ideal for applications such as dynamometers, data acquisition systems, standalone ecus, and gauges. In the calibrate afr table, i have tried using the settings innovate lc1lc2 default and custom linear wb with settings point 1 volts afr 7. In the calibrate afr table, i have tried using the settings innovate lc 1 lc 2 default and custom linear wb with settings point 1 volts afr 7. With the provided lm programmer software these analog outputs may also be. Soem say it is a common innovate problem that the heat up is not enough and than it keeps reading 22. Pull it for a free air calibration and see what it does. If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the faq by clicking the link above.
The car ran amazingly well in closedloop all the way to redline regardless of load. The new innovate motorsports digital mtx series airfuel. Jan 22, 2018 innovate motorsports created the worlds most popular standalone digital oxygen sensor controller with the groundbreaking lc1, then improved upon the original design with the lc2, adding more features and greater accuracy while making the technology even more accessible. Ability to log supported innovate mts devices, zeitronix zt2zt3 or aem uego via the builtin 2.
What diyautotune products are compatible with this cable. Innovate motorsports lc2 digital wideband controller with. If realtime recording with the innovate logworks software, connect the serial out. Innovate motorsports 3881 innovate lc2 wideband controller. Innovate motorsports 3795 db blue complete wideband gauge kit. Out of the box the lm2 seems to be reading solid afr however i cant seem to get a good rpm reading. Innovate motorsports 3795 db blue complete wideband gauge.
Efidynotuning view topic lc1 vs lc2 datalogging 05v. Megasquirt support forum msextra new user, firmware, and. By volvoguy23, april, 2014 in performance modifications. Any suggestions on best location driverside, passengerside to have the bung welded into the exhaust docs say about 24 away from the collector so say 6 after the o2 sensors that are on it now. Incompany customer oriented product and service providers are woven. Innovate lc 2 seemed like the solution, but wondering after reading this thread. Guide for lc2, lm2, mtxl, scg1and multisensor support this guide entails updating the firmware on your device. Make sure that nothing is connected to the in port of the lc2 2. I have the same problem, but was wondering what is the bosch part number for the lsu 4. Innovate motorsports 3877 lc2 digital wideband lambda controller kit with bosch. The evolution of the worlds most popular stand alone digital wideband o. The lc2 is a controller that controls a wideband o2 lambda sensor to measure o2 content in. How to testingcalibrating the innovate mtxl plus youtube. Also included with the innovate db digital airfuel ratio gauge with lc2 kits is an oxygen sensor bung and plug, gauge mounting hardware, a cd, and a quickstart information guide.
A if its a single turbo, you would only want a single wideband. However, such information may, nevertheless, be affected by changes in the blend formulation occurring subsequent to the date of printing. I have used the aem, plx, lc1 and autometer widebands and this is by far the easiest to install and fastest to respond. How to calibrate and connect sensor innovate lc2 pn.
Jan 19, 2016 i can share how i wired up the older innovate lc 1 to a s300v3 with a jdm p30 ecu. Megasquirt support forum msextra new user, firmware. Physically mount the unit away from all ignition or stereo components and other potentially rf or emi emitting sources. Introducing innovates lc3 digital wideband lambda o2 controller. Innovate lc 2 digital wideband lambda o2 controller kits are ideal for applications such as dynamometers, data acquisition systems, standalone ecus, and gauges. This package includes the lc 2 wideband controller, 8. At idle my gauge says 15 and with the lc 1 eio i was in 7s and 8s, obviously not right. Innovate motorsports 3877 lc2 digital wideband lambda controller kit with o2 sensor. Standalone data logging to microsd card allows you to log without a laptop.
Lc1 install description this tutorial will provide general instructions for the installation, programming and integration of the innovate lc1 with efilive scan tools and a dynotune display. Innovate lc2 digital wideband lambda o2 controller kits 3877. What innovate motorsports products are compatible with this cable. The lc2 utilizes the only 100% digital wideband airfuel ratio technology on the. Innovate lc2 seemed like the solution, but wondering after reading this thread. Innovate lm 2 vs zeitronix zt2 airfuel ratio meter. If, however, the firmware does become corrupt, the revision that was preloaded on your ecu is included on the usb thumbdrive and copied to your computers hard drive. Introducing innovates lc3 digital wideband lambda o2. Because youre using ecmlink, you can leave this wire disconnected but isolated from ground with some heatshrink or electrical tape and simply use ecmlinks narrowband simulation function instead the brown wire is defined by default to have a mapping of 0v 7.
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